Comments on: Want Poison? Just Mix God With Nationalism http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/ Wed, 16 May 2012 15:28:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The Broken Telegraph http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/#comment-255 The Broken Telegraph Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:25:27 +0000 http://brokentelegraph.wordpress.com/?p=515#comment-255 Kunard! Good to have your thoughts here! I think you made the distinction correctly- the phrase "country first" might be passable if it were spoken by a party that demonstrated an allegiance to the constitution and liberty, but the GOP are no longer that party. Then again, I think the phrase is still shocking and harmful because it is language that conditions the population to accept a submissive role with the government in power, when it's supposed to be the other way around. The slogan demonstrates how far we've drifted from our "give me liberty or give me death" roots. But it's actually pretty accurate as a description for the GOP as they currently exist- a party committed to doing whatever, whenever, as long as they cite national security. As for your comments on religion- very well said! Part of why I find Christ to be so credible is because he didn't say "try my brand of ritualistic exercise" but rather "try me in relationship," all while warning about the danger of religiosity. Glad you found the site and I'm excited to read your comments on future posts. -ian Kunard! Good to have your thoughts here!

I think you made the distinction correctly- the phrase “country first” might be passable if it were spoken by a party that demonstrated an allegiance to the constitution and liberty, but the GOP are no longer that party.

Then again, I think the phrase is still shocking and harmful because it is language that conditions the population to accept a submissive role with the government in power, when it’s supposed to be the other way around. The slogan demonstrates how far we’ve drifted from our “give me liberty or give me death” roots. But it’s actually pretty accurate as a description for the GOP as they currently exist- a party committed to doing whatever, whenever, as long as they cite national security.

As for your comments on religion- very well said! Part of why I find Christ to be so credible is because he didn’t say “try my brand of ritualistic exercise” but rather “try me in relationship,” all while warning about the danger of religiosity. Glad you found the site and I’m excited to read your comments on future posts.

-ian

]]> By: Kunard http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/#comment-254 Kunard Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:23:07 +0000 http://brokentelegraph.wordpress.com/?p=515#comment-254 "Country First"???? Yeah right!!! They say it but do they really mean it? The GOP (and any religious party for that matter) often seems more worried about it's "agenda" or "platform" than the Country as a whole. The GOP agenda is all too often skewed by the "prism" of the extreme religious right and it's these views that are "First". I personally don't have a problem with the slogan "Country First" After all, this country was based on the principles of equality and the rights of "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness". What is wrong with that? Religious Freedom is a cornerstone of this democracy but many take this too far. I believe that religious extremism is dangerous, no matter what the religion. Crazy Christians are just as dangerous as Crazy Muslims. Each group can tear away at the fabric that makes this nation great. You choose: Blowing up skyscrapers or bombing Abortion Clinics and Lynching. All of these things (and countless others) were done the in the name of "God". The sharing of ideas, opinions, and openly expressing opposing views (as we do here) is key to advancing peace in this world. Tolerance, love, and understanding is the true measure of Godliness. Matthew 5:44: But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; CK “Country First”???? Yeah right!!! They say it but do they really mean it? The GOP (and any religious party for that matter) often seems more worried about it’s “agenda” or “platform” than the Country as a whole. The GOP agenda is all too often skewed by the “prism” of the extreme religious right and it’s these views that are “First”.

I personally don’t have a problem with the slogan “Country First” After all, this country was based on the principles of equality and the rights of “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”. What is wrong with that?

Religious Freedom is a cornerstone of this democracy but many take this too far. I believe that religious extremism is dangerous, no matter what the religion. Crazy Christians are just as dangerous as Crazy Muslims. Each group can tear away at the fabric that makes this nation great. You choose: Blowing up skyscrapers or bombing Abortion Clinics and Lynching. All of these things (and countless others) were done the in the name of “God”.

The sharing of ideas, opinions, and openly expressing opposing views (as we do here) is key to advancing peace in this world. Tolerance, love, and understanding is the true measure of Godliness.

Matthew 5:44:
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

CK

]]> By: Jael http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/#comment-253 Jael Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:53:48 +0000 http://brokentelegraph.wordpress.com/?p=515#comment-253 Brill, Ian........Brill :-) Brill, Ian……..Brill :-)

]]> By: becky http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/#comment-252 becky Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:08:07 +0000 http://brokentelegraph.wordpress.com/?p=515#comment-252 Your last sentence is killer. Your last sentence is killer.

]]> By: The Broken Telegraph http://brokentelegraph.com/2008/10/03/mixing-god-with-nationalism/#comment-251 The Broken Telegraph Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:03:31 +0000 http://brokentelegraph.wordpress.com/?p=515#comment-251 Heather and Hobey- you're the site's first married pair to comment as a couple. Awww... First to Weebs- thanks! Always interesting to read your take on things. Looking forward to meeting your newborn within days! :) Hobathon- ahah nice find. Fallon isn't getting much work lately so I'm helping him establish an internet presence. -ian Heather and Hobey- you’re the site’s first married pair to comment as a couple. Awww…

First to Weebs- thanks! Always interesting to read your take on things. Looking forward to meeting your newborn within days! :)

Hobathon- ahah nice find. Fallon isn’t getting much work lately so I’m helping him establish an internet presence.

-ian

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